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The reason Deadpool and Wolverine succeeded and Joker 2 failed is painfully obvious

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The reason Deadpool and Wolverine succeeded and Joker 2 failed is painfully obvious


The highly anticipated musical sequel to Todd Phillips’ billionaire sensation, Joker: Folie à Deux, did not live up to its predecessor. The same year, Deadpool and Wolverine also took its place in the record books as the highest-grossing R-rated film. For better or for worse, Wolverine and Deadpool succeeds where Joker 2 fails because of how each movie accepts that it’s part of comic book franchises.



In Hollywood, money talks, so it almost makes sense that the Merc with a Mouth wins against the Clown Prince of Crime. Negative reaction from fans and critics means Joker: Folie à Deux is a financial disaster for Warner Bros. Discovery. The first film, Jokerbecame the highest-grossing R-rated film after surpassing $1 billion on a budget of $70 million. As is usually the case with major studios, WBD more than doubled its investment with $200 million for the sequel. However, like countless cult classics from Blade Runner has Mallrats It is proven that financial success does not determine a film’s legacy. Instead, Joker: Folie à Deux failed to attract fans because Todd Phillips maintained his ardent anti-comic book-movie stance, while Deadpool and Wolverine embraced not only its editorial roots but also the films that preceded it.



As a tribute to Martin Scorsese, Joker was a success

Todd Phillips avoided the comics that made his film a hit

The central premise of the sequel is that Arthur Fleck is the real person and Joker is a fantasy. To be fair to Todd Phillips, this idea was announced in Jokeras Fleck used his fake face as a shield to commit the heinous acts that made him adored by Gothamites and misguided moviegoers alike. Always, Joker seemed more of a pastiche of previous Martin Scorsese films than any serious origin for the comic book-inspired characterwho has appeared in live action since Cesear Romero first donned the Joker’s makeup in 1966. Batman series and films.

Joker: Harley (Lady Gaga) and Arthur (Joaquin Phoenix) from Folie à Deux almost kiss in wedding attire.

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The tribute to Taxi driver passing through The king of comedy This shouldn’t come as a surprise either, since their director was originally a producer on Joker. In fact, reports suggest that Scorsese is gone Joker due to its roots in comics. As a cinematic treasure as he is, his feelings about comic book films are clear, including that they are not cinema but rather naive theme park rides. But no matter how we feel Jokerit is indeed “the cinema of human beings trying to transmit emotional and psychological experiences to another human being”. Although Batman may not have appeared in Jokerthe murder of Thomas and Martha Wayne did it.


The sequel also avoids any sense of being inspired by comic books, which also makes sense given the director’s comments promoting its predecessor. Phillips said that the Batman mythos had little influence on the film, despite the disparate elements of the books constructing Arthur Fleck’s story. Although, arguably, that has more to do with Joker being an eight-decade-old character appearing in thousands of stories rather than Phillips researching them. It’s ironic, because the only reason Fleck’s homicidal meltdown made $1 billion is because people came to see THE Joker. Folie à Deux seemingly exists to emphasize that Fleck was never the Joker at all.

Deadpool and Wolverine took everything about the comics for R-rated excellence

Marvel references underlying the story of Deadpool and Wolverine

  1. The TVA and Alioth’s Void Loki
  2. Johnny Storm Fantastic Four movies
  3. The popularity of the Avengers in the MCU
  4. Characters from X-Men movies, Electra And Blade
  5. Slingshot rings Doctor Strange


With his “power” to break the fourth wall and make metatextual references, Deadpool tells a lot of jokes at the expense of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. He even tells Logan that he’s “joining at a low point”, a nod to the post-Avengers: Endgame struggles for Marvel Studios. If Joker and its sequel came from everything remotely related to the history of comics, Deadpool and Wolverine dived into his hindquarters first. While this is easier to do in a comedy (ironic given that the DC character in question is literally named “Joker”), Folie à Deux is a strange film that still plays like it’s supposed to be “better” than the superhero cinema Scorsese hates so much.

“On your left, little girl. This Logan has the same look where he can do anything, even in musicals, and – bonus – he actually wears a costume like he’s not embarrassed to be in a superhero movie for once” — Deadpool to Mister Paradox.


To add to the irony, Hugh Jackman’s final film as Wolverine, Loganwas also virtually devoid of fun in favor of R-rated violence and strong emotion. This makes sense given James Mangold’s recent comments about the MCU being the “death of storytelling.” Always, Logan has built on the character’s history since X-Men films for their emotional weight. Arthur Fleck, for his part, is only a “lonely mentally ill person” crossed “by a society which abandons him and treats him like waste”. In other words, Arthur Fleck is one of countless poor depictions of mentally ill characters who hurt others instead of (as is common in reality) hurting themselves.

Channing Tatum as Gambit with animated and comedic variations in the background

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Deadpool and Wolverine embraced every possible aspect of superhero storytelling weirdness possible. Sure, there was plenty of violence, swearing, and R-rated emotional subtext. Yet rather than trying to be “above” comic book stories, Shawn Levy and company knew that these Stories were already the ideal vehicle for character-driven cinema. Actually, Deadpool and Wolverine was a commentary on how easily these characters and the artists who bring them to life can be dismissed. This is why the film was a huge success, and it contains a lesson for those who are curious as to why. Joker: Folie à Deux failed.

Folie à Deux goes even further to move away from Joker’s roots

Joker 2 is devoid of comic book elements and any sense of fun


In this way, Joker: Folie à Deux follows a similar path to that of Matt Reeves and his shared universe “The Batman Epic Crime Saga.” In an interview with CBR, Todd Phillips said he “wanted Joker 2 feel real. We wanted it to answer a lot of questions…that people had with the first film. » One of those questions was how “real” the ending was compared to what was in Arthur’s mind. This actually robs the first film of its artistic joy. Debating whether Gotham responded positively to Arthur Fleck or not was part of the fun of the film.. So, fans are treated to extended courtroom drama that oscillates between confusing and downright boring.

Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn in Joker 2

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In another irony, Phillips praised DC’s lack of involvement, particularly James Gunn and Peter Safran.. The new co-heads of DC Studios were not hired until well after the film had been filmed. Although they publicly support the film, given the negative reaction the film received, Gunn and company are likely grateful for this unintentional gift. Todd Phillips didn’t need to be a “fan” of the source material, at least not in the way that Levy and Reynolds seemed to be. However, any storyteller working in these worlds must respect it. Joker is a character with 84 years of history, and accepting him would have helped make Folie à Deux a better movie.

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Needle-Drops pop music versus standards and original songs


The original Joker said something about toxic masculinity, both in the narrative and in its reception. Shadows of these themes exist in Folie à Deuxbut everything is confused by history. Perhaps the best help a comic book setting gives storytellers is that, literally, anything is possible. The final irony is that musicals also have a fantastic (as “silly”) quirk as superhero stories.. Joker 2 actually works with an altered reality, as the first film established the fantastical, vivid life of Arthur Fleck. There’s even a cartoon introduction, a reference to the tradition of Warner Bros. films. Looney Tunes shortly before a film.


Deadpool and Wolverine used familiar comic book connections to reinforce it. Both leads were classic failures who wanted to do something that mattered. The use of music, by way of “needle drops”, reinforced the film’s other story about how successful superhero adaptations are not “throwaway” for the artists who make them. Involuntarily, Joker: Folie à Deux This is exactly the kind of film Deadpool and Wolverine the argument has value beyond one’s income or cultural heritage.

Joker and Harley Quinn dance

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A musical is already a movie in altered reality, so Todd Phillips missed the opportunity to embrace the Joker’s comic book legacy.. Even if these elements were used in a subversive way as in Deadpool 3the climax of the film could play out very differently. At the very least, it wouldn’t have seemed like a deliberate rejection by fans of the Joker, the books, or the first film. Had Joker: Folie à Deux drawing more on more than 80 years of artistic foundation, he would have only done better. At the very least, it wouldn’t have made the film any less “real.”


Deadpool & Wolverine is available on Blu-ray, Digital and will stream on Disney+, while Joker: Folie à Deux is currently in theaters.

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